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Hello eLuers :)
We're proud to announce that *eLua* has a new site, based on Sputnik, a Wiki engine 100% written in Lua (it is actually a whole web dev framework :) The official *eLua* URL now points to the new wiki: www.eluaproject.net It is far from ready but that's the spirit of a wiki :) As *eLua*, it will be evolving fast in the next weeks too. The documentation is beeing enhanced, support for new platforms are comming soon, more examples are beeing written every day and new eLua modules too. We are also working on a Portuguese version of the site. . Thanks to those who helped with the migration for the Wiki format and for Yuri, who made Sputnik come true. Best Dado -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081205/01425b17/attachment.html |
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From: Dado Sutter <dadosutter at esp.puc-rio.br> Date: Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 18:46 Subject: New Site To: eLua development list <elua-dev at lists.berlios.de> Cc: Roberto Ierusalimschy <roberto at inf.puc-rio.br>, Yuri Takhteyev < yuri at cs.stanford.edu>, Lista LabMAR <LM_Group at googlegroups.com>, Raul Nunes <nunes at dcmm.puc-rio.br> Hello eLuers :) We're proud to announce that *eLua* has a new site, based on Sputnik, a Wiki engine 100% written in Lua (it is actually a whole web dev framework :) The official *eLua* URL now points to the new wiki: www.eluaproject.net It is far from ready but that's the spirit of a wiki :) As *eLua*, it will be evolving fast in the next weeks too. The documentation is beeing enhanced, support for new platforms are comming soon, more examples are beeing written every day and new eLua modules too. We are also working on a Portuguese version of the site. . Thanks to those who helped with the migration for the Wiki format and for Yuri, who made Sputnik come true. Best Dado -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081205/5f438d3a/attachment.html |
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Glad to see you are putting Sputnik to good use. Let me know if you
need any help. I'll be in Rio starting with next week so I can even offer some in-person tech support. I would change the colors a little to make it not look so default. Or be more ambitious and make it look more like the old elua site. And perhaps it would make sense to hide elua.cgi from the URL? Just make it http://www.eluaproject.net/en/<page_name>? - yuri On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Dado Sutter <dadosutter at esp.puc-rio.br> wrote: > > Hello eLuers :) > We're proud to announce that eLua has a new site, based on Sputnik, a Wiki engine 100% written in Lua (it is actually a whole web dev framework :) > The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: www.eluaproject.net > > It is far from ready but that's the spirit of a wiki :) As eLua, it will be evolving fast in the next weeks too. > The documentation is beeing enhanced, support for new platforms are comming soon, more examples are beeing written every day and new eLua modules too. > We are also working on a Portuguese version of the site. > . > Thanks to those who helped with the migration for the Wiki format and for Yuri, who made Sputnik come true. > > Best > Dado > -- http://sputnik.freewisdom.org/ |
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> The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: www.eluaproject.net
Hmm, does not seem to work at all at the moment. Fred |
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Thanks for the report Fred !
It seems strange though, because I have (web) access from here and I am even editing the wiki. The wiki is hosted in one of our servers on the Lab at PUC-Rio. Sometimes (rare) PUC messes up the routing or have power outage problems but it doesn't seem to be the case now (I've just called to check). I'll keep an eye on the availability and on these usefull reports. Tks again Best Dado On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:41, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de at thomascorner.com>wrote: > > The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: www.eluaproject.net > > Hmm, does not seem to work at all at the moment. > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081206/96c1ff62/attachment.html |
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Not working from here too.
--Pedro Bittencourt On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Dado Sutter <dadosutter at gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the report Fred ! > It seems strange though, because I have (web) access from here and I am > even editing the wiki. > The wiki is hosted in one of our servers on the Lab at PUC-Rio. > Sometimes (rare) PUC messes up the routing or have power outage problems but > it doesn't seem to be the case now (I've just called to check). > I'll keep an eye on the availability and on these usefull reports. > > Tks again > Best > Dado > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:41, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de at thomascorner.com > > wrote: > >> > The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: >> www.eluaproject.net >> >> Hmm, does not seem to work at all at the moment. >> >> Fred >> _______________________________________________ >> Elua-dev mailing list >> Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081206/67dfd5d8/attachment.html |
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Here is the deal, the redirect acrobatics just fail at some point with
Safari on the Mac (and potentially other browsers). Acrobatics because http://www.eluaproject.net/ redirects (301) to http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/elua which itselfs redirects (301) to http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/elua/ at which stage whoever wrote this decided we had enough fun with 301 and it was time to use some old deprecated trick from the Netscape days - and it returns a web "page" with: <META http-equiv="refresh" content=";URL=/cgi-bin/elua.cgi"> Insofar as there is a spec for this, it probably mandates a digit before the ; in content="". For example 0. With such a change it works on Safari and Firefox on the Mac: <META http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=/cgi-bin/elua.cgi"> And we're finally home at URL: http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/cgi-bin/elua.cgi Adding the 0 fixes Safari/OSX. I would however suggest the whole thing is given the once over for efficiency and web standard validation. HTH Fred On Dec 6, 2008, at 16:48 , Pedro Bittencourt wrote: > Not working from here too. > > --Pedro Bittencourt > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Dado Sutter <dadosutter at gmail.com> > wrote: > Thanks for the report Fred ! > It seems strange though, because I have (web) access from here > and I am even editing the wiki. > The wiki is hosted in one of our servers on the Lab at PUC-Rio. > Sometimes (rare) PUC messes up the routing or have power outage > problems but it doesn't seem to be the case now (I've just called to > check). > I'll keep an eye on the availability and on these usefull reports. > > Tks again > Best > Dado > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:41, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de at thomascorner.com > > wrote: > > The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: www.eluaproject.net > > Hmm, does not seem to work at all at the moment. > > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev |
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Not working here too right now.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de at thomascorner.com > wrote: > Here is the deal, the redirect acrobatics just fail at some point with > Safari on the Mac (and potentially other browsers). > > Acrobatics because > > http://www.eluaproject.net/ > > redirects (301) to > > http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/elua > > which itselfs redirects (301) to > > http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/elua/ > > at which stage whoever wrote this decided we had enough fun with 301 > and it was time to use some old deprecated trick from the Netscape > days - and it returns a web "page" with: > > <META http-equiv="refresh" content=";URL=/cgi-bin/elua.cgi"> > > Insofar as there is a spec for this, it probably mandates a digit > before the ; in content="". For example 0. With such a change it works > on Safari and Firefox on the Mac: > > <META http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=/cgi-bin/elua.cgi"> > > And we're finally home at URL: > > http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/cgi-bin/elua.cgi > > > Adding the 0 fixes Safari/OSX. I would however suggest the whole thing > is given the once over for efficiency and web standard validation. > > HTH > > Fred > > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 16:48 , Pedro Bittencourt wrote: > > > Not working from here too. > > > > --Pedro Bittencourt > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Dado Sutter <dadosutter at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Thanks for the report Fred ! > > It seems strange though, because I have (web) access from here > > and I am even editing the wiki. > > The wiki is hosted in one of our servers on the Lab at PUC-Rio. > > Sometimes (rare) PUC messes up the routing or have power outage > > problems but it doesn't seem to be the case now (I've just called to > > check). > > I'll keep an eye on the availability and on these usefull reports. > > > > Tks again > > Best > > Dado > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:41, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de@ > thomascorner.com > > > wrote: > > > The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: > www.eluaproject.net > > > > Hmm, does not seem to work at all at the moment. > > > > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > > Elua-dev mailing list > > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elua-dev mailing list > > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elua-dev mailing list > > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081206/db618051/attachment.html |
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Working fine here right now (?!).
So, Thomas, if I understood correctly, we should redirect eluaproject.net to http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/cgi-bin/elua.cgi? Best, Bogdan On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:44 PM, T?o Benjamin <teo.benjamin at gmail.com> wrote: > Not working here too right now. > > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de@ > thomascorner.com> wrote: > >> Here is the deal, the redirect acrobatics just fail at some point with >> Safari on the Mac (and potentially other browsers). >> >> Acrobatics because >> >> http://www.eluaproject.net/ >> >> redirects (301) to >> >> http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/elua >> >> which itselfs redirects (301) to >> >> http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/elua/ >> >> at which stage whoever wrote this decided we had enough fun with 301 >> and it was time to use some old deprecated trick from the Netscape >> days - and it returns a web "page" with: >> >> <META http-equiv="refresh" content=";URL=/cgi-bin/elua.cgi"> >> >> Insofar as there is a spec for this, it probably mandates a digit >> before the ; in content="". For example 0. With such a change it works >> on Safari and Firefox on the Mac: >> >> <META http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=/cgi-bin/elua.cgi"> >> >> And we're finally home at URL: >> >> http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/cgi-bin/elua.cgi >> >> >> Adding the 0 fixes Safari/OSX. I would however suggest the whole thing >> is given the once over for efficiency and web standard validation. >> >> HTH >> >> Fred >> >> >> On Dec 6, 2008, at 16:48 , Pedro Bittencourt wrote: >> >> > Not working from here too. >> > >> > --Pedro Bittencourt >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Dado Sutter <dadosutter at gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > Thanks for the report Fred ! >> > It seems strange though, because I have (web) access from here >> > and I am even editing the wiki. >> > The wiki is hosted in one of our servers on the Lab at PUC-Rio. >> > Sometimes (rare) PUC messes up the routing or have power outage >> > problems but it doesn't seem to be the case now (I've just called to >> > check). >> > I'll keep an eye on the availability and on these usefull reports. >> > >> > Tks again >> > Best >> > Dado >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:41, Fr?d?ric Thomas <berlios.de@ >> thomascorner.com >> > > wrote: >> > > The official eLua URL now points to the new wiki: >> www.eluaproject.net >> > >> > Hmm, does not seem to work at all at the moment. >> > >> > Fred >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Elua-dev mailing list >> > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de >> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Elua-dev mailing list >> > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de >> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Elua-dev mailing list >> > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de >> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elua-dev mailing list >> Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081206/b2ac10c6/attachment-0001.html |
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> So, Thomas, if I understood correctly, we should redirect eluaproject.net to
> http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/cgi-bin/elua.cgi? Why redirect at all? Just point eluaproject's DNS record to 139.82.143.2, assuming it's a static IP. Then add three URL rewrite rules conditional on host name: RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^eluaproject [NC] RewriteRule ^$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^eluaproject [NC] RewriteRule ^en/$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^eluaproject [NC] RewriteRule ^en/(.*)$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi?p=$1 This is how sputnik.freewisdom.org works. Also, for something like this, there is little benefit in hosting it on a machine in the office. Why not put it up with some web hosting company? I can host it on the same server where I host sputnik, if you want. - yuri -- http://sputnik.freewisdom.org/ |
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> Working fine here right now (?!).
It works fine here with Firefox. Only Safari is giving me trouble. Both on OS X. I don't know what browsers/OS the other reporting problems have. So yes it does work for some, and not for others. > So, Thomas, if I understood correctly, we should redirect > eluaproject.net to http://www.giga.puc-rio.br/cgi-bin/elua.cgi? Hard to say without knowing what your constraints are. I was just saying there were probably too many hops :) Yuri has a nice clean proposal. But that's a long term fix. Short term fix: add the 0 in the meta refresh thingy. That will make it work for everybody IMHO. You can then discuss the best long term solution with the local experts. Fred |
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Hi,
Why redirect at all? Just point eluaproject's DNS record to > 139.82.143.2, assuming it's a static IP. I can do that. > Then add three URL rewrite > rules conditional on host name: > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^eluaproject [NC] > RewriteRule ^$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^eluaproject [NC] > RewriteRule ^en/$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^eluaproject [NC] > RewriteRule ^en/(.*)$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi?p=$1 > > This is how sputnik.freewisdom.org works. I can't do this :) Or don't know how. I assume it has to be done on the server itself, and I only have access to the web admin interface (I should probably point out that I know very little about Sputnik). > Also, for something like this, there is little benefit in hosting it > on a machine in the office. Why not put it up with some web hosting > company? I can host it on the same server where I host sputnik, if you > want. I had no idea this is hosted on a machine in the office. Dado, what do you think about moving it to a dedicated site? > > > - yuri Thank you very much for your help, Yuri. Best, Bogdan > > > -- > http://sputnik.freewisdom.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081207/4a127c58/attachment.html |
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Hello Guys,
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 06:47, Bogdan Marinescu <bogdan.marinescu at gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > > Why redirect at all? Just point eluaproject's DNS record to >> 139.82.143.2, assuming it's a static IP. > > > I can do that. > I confirm the IP is static but pls redirect to 139.82.143.2/elua , if posible. It will work, at least for some months, if you don't. > ............... >> >> >> RewriteRule ^en/(.*)$ /cgi-bin/elua.cgi?p=$1 >> >> This is how sputnik.freewisdom.org works. > > > I can't do this :) Or don't know how. I assume it has to be done on the > server itself, and I only have access to the web admin interface (I should > probably point out that I know very little about Sputnik). > I'll check this with my web team on tuesday (PUC will be closed on monday) Also, for something like this, there is little benefit in hosting it >> on a machine in the office. Why not put it up with some web hosting >> company? I can host it on the same server where I host sputnik, if you >> want. > > > I had no idea this is hosted on a machine in the office. Dado, what do you > think about moving it to a dedicated site? > I don't see any problem with that, much on the contrary. I decided to host it in our servers, based on the fact that we have access to everything there (routing rules, complete admin access, backup, .......). And also because we need to avoid costs at this moment, as eLua does not have any financial support other than me and Bogdan. I must also mention that web hosting and web stuff in general is not my area, so I have very little knowledge of the real options. It would be nice indeed if we find some better place to host our eLua wiki, if we can do whatever we want with Sputnik on it and have (almost) complete admin access too, for free. > Thank you very much for your help, Yuri. > Yes ! Thanks to Yuri and Fred for the great help ! > Best, > Bogdan > Best Dado > > > >> >> >> -- >> http://sputnik.freewisdom.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Elua-dev mailing list >> Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Elua-dev mailing list > Elua-dev at lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/attachments/20081207/188ebd14/attachment.html |
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> It would be nice indeed if we find some better place to host our
> eLua wiki, if we can do whatever we want with Sputnik on it and have > (almost) complete admin access too, for free. I can also host it on my Dreamhost account, if you like. Fred |
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> I confirm the IP is static but pls redirect to 139.82.143.2/elua , if
> posible. It will work, at least for some months, if you don't. No, don't _redirect_. However controls the eluaproject.net domain should login to their registrar's web site and do the following: (1) deactivate web forwarding, (2) enter the default name servers for your registrar (if they already have values like "ns19.yourregistrar.com" then just leave them there), (3) create two "A" records, one pointing "@" to 139.82.143.2 and another pointing "www" to "@". The fields might have different names, for different registrars. Perphas, you set "name" to "@" and "value" to "139.82.143.2" or "host" to "@" and "points to" to "139.82.143.2". (If you also see at "TTL" field than leave it as is or set it to 24 hours.) After you do this, it would take a day or two for the data to propagate, so people will be getting different results. Once it propagates, however, someone going to eluaproject.net will start seeing Sputnik, but still with "eluaproject.net" in the URL. Getting rid of elua.cgi in the URL is a separate step - let's do this one thing at a time. >> I can't do this :) Or don't know how. I assume it has to be done on the >> server itself, and I only have access to the web admin interface (I should >> probably point out that I know very little about Sputnik). > > I'll check this with my web team on tuesday (PUC will be closed on monday) Those are two separate things, though, we can deal with them one at a time. I can help you with local server set up when I am at PUC. > It would be nice indeed if we find some better place to host our eLua wiki, > if we can do whatever we want with Sputnik on it and have (almost) complete > admin access too, for free. "can do whatever we want" and "free" are hard to reconcile. Sputnik runs trivially on cheap shared hosting such as dreamhost, though. I can host eLua wiki on my dreamhost account if you want, but this of course means that you will have limited access. (Fr?d?ric offered the same, I think.) Alternatively, I've been planning to offer hosted Sputnik accounts with git access. That is, your sputnik data would be stored in a git repository and you will able to use git for backup, troubleshooting and other fun stuff (like synchronization between several servers). Let me know if you want to be a guinea pig. - yuri -- http://sputnik.freewisdom.org/ |
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>> It would be nice indeed if we find some better place to host our
>> eLua wiki, >> if we can do whatever we want with Sputnik on it and have (almost) >> complete >> admin access too, for free. > > "can do whatever we want" and "free" are hard to reconcile. Sputnik > runs trivially on cheap shared hosting such as dreamhost, though. I > can host eLua wiki on my dreamhost account if you want, but this of > course means that you will have limited access. (Fr?d?ric offered the > same, I think.) What I was thinking was to host eluaproject.net, create a eluadmin user with shell/ftp access to the server directory, and let it as well administer using the dreamhost Gui. Whoever has the password for eluadmin has pretty close to complete control, and no possibility to mess with my domains. Now it seems help would be also welcome managing all this, including Sputnik. Obviously there Yuri would be the expert. Fred |
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