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hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
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Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.


Best,
Nuccio 


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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
Bogdan


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Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
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Re: Web builder and profiles

Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Best,
Vagner



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
Bogdan


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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.

Best,
Vagner

Best
Dado



 



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
Bogdan


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2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?
Right. 

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.
Of course, unless the user to change anything in the cloned build configuration and resave.

Best,
Vagner

Best
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2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> ha scritto:

Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
Bogdan


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Hi Dado, All

putting myself in the shoes of a new eLua user,
I can see that is hard to know (and so choice)
the right combination of BUILD_XXX options in order to obtain the elua.elf package that I want.
So my idea is to help the user "before" the first build.

Ciao,
Nuccio

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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.

Best,
Vagner

Best
Dado



 



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> ha scritto:

Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
Bogdan


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Hi Nuccio,

I understand your point of view and can be implemented a set of preset options, but what can we considerated as "good options" for the users? Could be something like: Default, Minimal, Ethernet, All, etc...

Best,
Vagner

2011/6/9 nuccio raciti <[hidden email]>
Hi Dado, All

putting myself in the shoes of a new eLua user,
I can see that is hard to know (and so choice)
the right combination of BUILD_XXX options in order to obtain the elua.elf package that I want.
So my idea is to help the user "before" the first build.

Ciao,
Nuccio


2011/6/9 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.

Best,
Vagner

Best
Dado



 



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> ha scritto:

Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
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Hi Vagner,
I was thinking:NETWORK
DEFAULT
DEFAULT-DEBUG (with console,rfs and uarts or usb virtual uarts)
NETWORK
NETWORK-DEBUG (network plus rfs, console and uarts or usb virtual uarts )
WEBSERVER            (with the network outside of eLua)
WEBSERVER-DEBUG (plus rfs, console, uarts or usb virtual uarts)
OTHER
OTHER-DEBUG

What do you think?
Ciao,
Nuccio

Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> ha scritto:
Hi Nuccio,

I understand your point of view and can be implemented a set of preset options, but what can we considerated as "good options" for the users? Could be something like: Default, Minimal, Ethernet, All, etc...

Best,
Vagner

2011/6/9 nuccio raciti <[hidden email]>
Hi Dado, All

putting myself in the shoes of a new eLua user,
I can see that is hard to know (and so choice)
the right combination of BUILD_XXX options in order to obtain the elua.elf package that I want.
So my idea is to help the user "before" the first build.

Ciao,
Nuccio


2011/6/9 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.

Best,
Vagner

Best
Dado



 



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
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Hi,
   We don't need to suspend the discussions here, as this seems to show interesting possible options, as Nuccio has been pointing. But I propose we wait just a little more to actually architect new features on profiles and config in general.
   We have started a small (but significant) refactoring of the build definitions/configs and also the build directory structure a while ago. We could not explain our ideas very clearly and Bogdan started working on a new config model of his own.
   Meanwhile, we can try again to explain what we had in mind here and also hear a little bit about what Bogdan is doing and when it is expected to merge with master.

   To help new users, we have added mutually-exclusive options checking on the Web Builder. We have also hidden the more complex options under the "Advanced Mode". eLua configuration is becoming very flexible, detailed and, naturally, complex. Of course we can always try to make it simpler.

Best
Dado




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Hi Nuccio,

I understand your point of view and can be implemented a set of preset options, but what can we considerated as "good options" for the users? Could be something like: Default, Minimal, Ethernet, All, etc...

Best,
Vagner

2011/6/9 nuccio raciti <[hidden email]>
Hi Dado, All

putting myself in the shoes of a new eLua user,
I can see that is hard to know (and so choice)
the right combination of BUILD_XXX options in order to obtain the elua.elf package that I want.
So my idea is to help the user "before" the first build.

Ciao,
Nuccio


2011/6/9 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.

Best,
Vagner

Best
Dado



 



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


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Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
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Hi All,

Would be nice if ta pre-set(created from a manufacturer for example) of builder's config files, can be made public and visible to all users that are selecting a supported platform.
Is this possible with the actual builder?

Regards,
Sergio

2011/6/9 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hi,
   We don't need to suspend the discussions here, as this seems to show interesting possible options, as Nuccio has been pointing. But I propose we wait just a little more to actually architect new features on profiles and config in general.
   We have started a small (but significant) refactoring of the build definitions/configs and also the build directory structure a while ago. We could not explain our ideas very clearly and Bogdan started working on a new config model of his own.
   Meanwhile, we can try again to explain what we had in mind here and also hear a little bit about what Bogdan is doing and when it is expected to merge with master.

   To help new users, we have added mutually-exclusive options checking on the Web Builder. We have also hidden the more complex options under the "Advanced Mode". eLua configuration is becoming very flexible, detailed and, naturally, complex. Of course we can always try to make it simpler.

Best
Dado





On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:00, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Nuccio,

I understand your point of view and can be implemented a set of preset options, but what can we considerated as "good options" for the users? Could be something like: Default, Minimal, Ethernet, All, etc...

Best,
Vagner

2011/6/9 nuccio raciti <[hidden email]>
Hi Dado, All

putting myself in the shoes of a new eLua user,
I can see that is hard to know (and so choice)
the right combination of BUILD_XXX options in order to obtain the elua.elf package that I want.
So my idea is to help the user "before" the first build.

Ciao,
Nuccio


2011/6/9 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 23:07, Vagner nascimento <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey guys,
A new feature we have thought is a way to clone a previous build, so the user could save some builds like templates / models / preferences.
More suggestions?

Just to make it clear, when you mention "clone a previous build" you actually mean "clone a previous build configurations" right ?

Final builds are saved too and users can download them again without the need to rebuild the the eLua binary image.

Best,
Vagner

Best
Dado



 



2011/6/8 Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>
Hello,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 04:23, Nuccio Raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure,
a sort of group of build options, for example:
The `DEVELOP` profile could contain:
BUILD_RFS + BUILD_CONSOLE
while a `PRODUCTION` profile should not have them.

Nuccio, If I understood your suggestion, this is exactly what we have already.
There is not a concept of a "profile" but each build actually saves every single option you used and you can reuse it or slightly modify it to rebuild over and over.
The builds are stored and you can name them as you would do to your "profiles" visions.
Was this that you had in mind ?

The WB is likely to be refactored for the future eLua build configuration scheme. But the current version would continue to build v0.8 for those who need older versions for some reason.

And yes, suggestions for the Web Builder features, interface and general behavior are highly welcomed.

Best,
Nuccio 

Tksss
Dado





 


Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> ha scritto:

Hi Nuccio,

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nuccio raciti <[hidden email]> wrote:
hello guys,
I played with the "web builder", it is very convenient and powerful,
so
I was wondering if it could be extended to handle "profiles".

It would probably help quite a bit if you could let us know how you define "profiles" :)

Best,
Bogdan


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