[PseudoPoll] eLua forum?

Here are some examples they provide of embedding:
http://www.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=36

(sorry to keep generating more mail for incremental comments :-) )

----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

> Looks like it has now joined.  FYI I think it is being stupid about not making this conversation a thread because it didn't get the start of it (though I'm not sure).
>
> Here's an example of a list that I didn't want the full volume of, but set up to archive on Nabble (if you want to see how a populated list looks):
> http://n2.nabble.com/git-f661346.html
>
> ----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >

> > Search support is important, and forums can be a better format for support, in particular.  How about something that does both without getting rid of the list :-)
> >
> > Have you checked out Nabble?  You can either explicitly create forums at Nabble, or have it work with an existing list.  If you use it with an existing list it will archive it for you, and give you a decent layout of threads, and allow for searching.  On top of that, though, people who get an account with Nabble can treat it like a forum and respond to posts through the site.  If you don't want full list volume coming into your inbox (this is why I've used it in the past), you can selectively follow threads or searches and get updates emailed to you.
> >
> > Here's a link to the eLua-dev archiver that I've set up (I think it still requires moderator approval before it can join our list): http://n2.nabble.com/elua-dev-f2368040.html
> >
> > You can also embed it in your site (I've never tried this though).
> >
> > -jsnyder
> >
> > ----- "Bogdan Marinescu" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've been thinking for a while now about adding a forum to our eLua project. Its final purpose would be to replace the discussion lists, because of two main reasons:
> > >
> > > - (arguably) the information on a forum is better structured than on a mailing list
> > > - the BerliOS lists server doesn't let you search the mailing lists, it just lets you browse the archives (see for example https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/), which is a huge limitation IMO.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, I'd like to start a pseudo-poll on this list (cause it's kinda hard to do a _real_ poll using just a mailing list mechanism, and I'd like to have an open discussion anyway) on these topics:
> > >
> > > 1. would you like to have a forum rather than a mailing list? (cause I don't see a reason for keeping both going in parallel, other than duplicating information and confusing users, which aren't exactly my goals at this point :) ).
> > > 2. do you know of a good, free/cheap hosting service for forums, preferably using phpBB? (one of the "must have" features I'm looking for is the possibility to save the state of the forum at a given point in time, so if we decide to move on another server we won't loose the threads already available on the forum). if it's free, it can have ads, as long as they're not too annoying :)
> > >
> > > Let me be the first to vote on this:
> > >
> > > 1. yes
> > > 2. no freaking idea. All the free forum hosting sites I could find with google (although I admit I only tried a few) don't seem to give you the possibility to save the state of your forum.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Bogdan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ Elua-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

_______________________________________________
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Ahhhh, so THAT's what Nabble does! :) Thanks!

Best,
Bogdan

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here are some examples they provide of embedding:
http://www.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=36

(sorry to keep generating more mail for incremental comments :-) )

----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

> Looks like it has now joined.  FYI I think it is being stupid about not making this conversation a thread because it didn't get the start of it (though I'm not sure).
>
> Here's an example of a list that I didn't want the full volume of, but set up to archive on Nabble (if you want to see how a populated list looks):
> http://n2.nabble.com/git-f661346.html
>
> ----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >

> > Search support is important, and forums can be a better format for support, in particular.  How about something that does both without getting rid of the list :-)
> >
> > Have you checked out Nabble?  You can either explicitly create forums at Nabble, or have it work with an existing list.  If you use it with an existing list it will archive it for you, and give you a decent layout of threads, and allow for searching.  On top of that, though, people who get an account with Nabble can treat it like a forum and respond to posts through the site.  If you don't want full list volume coming into your inbox (this is why I've used it in the past), you can selectively follow threads or searches and get updates emailed to you.
> >
> > Here's a link to the eLua-dev archiver that I've set up (I think it still requires moderator approval before it can join our list): http://n2.nabble.com/elua-dev-f2368040.html
> >
> > You can also embed it in your site (I've never tried this though).
> >
> > -jsnyder
> >
> > ----- "Bogdan Marinescu" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've been thinking for a while now about adding a forum to our eLua project. Its final purpose would be to replace the discussion lists, because of two main reasons:
> > >
> > > - (arguably) the information on a forum is better structured than on a mailing list
> > > - the BerliOS lists server doesn't let you search the mailing lists, it just lets you browse the archives (see for example https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/), which is a huge limitation IMO.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, I'd like to start a pseudo-poll on this list (cause it's kinda hard to do a _real_ poll using just a mailing list mechanism, and I'd like to have an open discussion anyway) on these topics:
> > >
> > > 1. would you like to have a forum rather than a mailing list? (cause I don't see a reason for keeping both going in parallel, other than duplicating information and confusing users, which aren't exactly my goals at this point :) ).
> > > 2. do you know of a good, free/cheap hosting service for forums, preferably using phpBB? (one of the "must have" features I'm looking for is the possibility to save the state of the forum at a given point in time, so if we decide to move on another server we won't loose the threads already available on the forum). if it's free, it can have ads, as long as they're not too annoying :)
> > >
> > > Let me be the first to vote on this:
> > >
> > > 1. yes
> > > 2. no freaking idea. All the free forum hosting sites I could find with google (although I admit I only tried a few) don't seem to give you the possibility to save the state of your forum.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Bogdan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ Elua-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

_______________________________________________

Elua-dev mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

This looks very nice, but do you have any idea what happens if an unregistered user tries to post something there? Currently, the eLua dev list is moderated, and I'd like to keep it like this. I'll try to post something stupid and see how that goes :) Is there an option to limit the access only to "registered" users, or maybe make the whole thing read-only?

Best,
Bogdan

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ahhhh, so THAT's what Nabble does! :) Thanks!

Best,
Bogdan

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here are some examples they provide of embedding:
http://www.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=36

(sorry to keep generating more mail for incremental comments :-) )

----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

> Looks like it has now joined.  FYI I think it is being stupid about not making this conversation a thread because it didn't get the start of it (though I'm not sure).
>
> Here's an example of a list that I didn't want the full volume of, but set up to archive on Nabble (if you want to see how a populated list looks):
> http://n2.nabble.com/git-f661346.html
>
> ----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >

> > Search support is important, and forums can be a better format for support, in particular.  How about something that does both without getting rid of the list :-)
> >
> > Have you checked out Nabble?  You can either explicitly create forums at Nabble, or have it work with an existing list.  If you use it with an existing list it will archive it for you, and give you a decent layout of threads, and allow for searching.  On top of that, though, people who get an account with Nabble can treat it like a forum and respond to posts through the site.  If you don't want full list volume coming into your inbox (this is why I've used it in the past), you can selectively follow threads or searches and get updates emailed to you.
> >
> > Here's a link to the eLua-dev archiver that I've set up (I think it still requires moderator approval before it can join our list): http://n2.nabble.com/elua-dev-f2368040.html
> >
> > You can also embed it in your site (I've never tried this though).
> >
> > -jsnyder
> >
> > ----- "Bogdan Marinescu" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've been thinking for a while now about adding a forum to our eLua project. Its final purpose would be to replace the discussion lists, because of two main reasons:
> > >
> > > - (arguably) the information on a forum is better structured than on a mailing list
> > > - the BerliOS lists server doesn't let you search the mailing lists, it just lets you browse the archives (see for example https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/), which is a huge limitation IMO.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, I'd like to start a pseudo-poll on this list (cause it's kinda hard to do a _real_ poll using just a mailing list mechanism, and I'd like to have an open discussion anyway) on these topics:
> > >
> > > 1. would you like to have a forum rather than a mailing list? (cause I don't see a reason for keeping both going in parallel, other than duplicating information and confusing users, which aren't exactly my goals at this point :) ).
> > > 2. do you know of a good, free/cheap hosting service for forums, preferably using phpBB? (one of the "must have" features I'm looking for is the possibility to save the state of the forum at a given point in time, so if we decide to move on another server we won't loose the threads already available on the forum). if it's free, it can have ads, as long as they're not too annoying :)
> > >
> > > Let me be the first to vote on this:
> > >
> > > 1. yes
> > > 2. no freaking idea. All the free forum hosting sites I could find with google (although I admit I only tried a few) don't seem to give you the possibility to save the state of your forum.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Bogdan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ Elua-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

_______________________________________________

Elua-dev mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

Ah nice, it requires the user to be subscribed, which is cool. Still curious about what happens with the messages posted to the "forum" interface that DON'T make it to the list, because the poster isn't subscribed.

Best,
Bogdan

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> wrote:

This looks very nice, but do you have any idea what happens if an unregistered user tries to post something there? Currently, the eLua dev list is moderated, and I'd like to keep it like this. I'll try to post something stupid and see how that goes :) Is there an option to limit the access only to "registered" users, or maybe make the whole thing read-only?

Best,
Bogdan

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ahhhh, so THAT's what Nabble does! :) Thanks!

Best,
Bogdan

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here are some examples they provide of embedding:
http://www.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=36

(sorry to keep generating more mail for incremental comments :-) )

----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

> Looks like it has now joined.  FYI I think it is being stupid about not making this conversation a thread because it didn't get the start of it (though I'm not sure).
>
> Here's an example of a list that I didn't want the full volume of, but set up to archive on Nabble (if you want to see how a populated list looks):
> http://n2.nabble.com/git-f661346.html
>
> ----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >

> > Search support is important, and forums can be a better format for support, in particular.  How about something that does both without getting rid of the list :-)
> >
> > Have you checked out Nabble?  You can either explicitly create forums at Nabble, or have it work with an existing list.  If you use it with an existing list it will archive it for you, and give you a decent layout of threads, and allow for searching.  On top of that, though, people who get an account with Nabble can treat it like a forum and respond to posts through the site.  If you don't want full list volume coming into your inbox (this is why I've used it in the past), you can selectively follow threads or searches and get updates emailed to you.
> >
> > Here's a link to the eLua-dev archiver that I've set up (I think it still requires moderator approval before it can join our list): http://n2.nabble.com/elua-dev-f2368040.html
> >
> > You can also embed it in your site (I've never tried this though).
> >
> > -jsnyder
> >
> > ----- "Bogdan Marinescu" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've been thinking for a while now about adding a forum to our eLua project. Its final purpose would be to replace the discussion lists, because of two main reasons:
> > >
> > > - (arguably) the information on a forum is better structured than on a mailing list
> > > - the BerliOS lists server doesn't let you search the mailing lists, it just lets you browse the archives (see for example https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/), which is a huge limitation IMO.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, I'd like to start a pseudo-poll on this list (cause it's kinda hard to do a _real_ poll using just a mailing list mechanism, and I'd like to have an open discussion anyway) on these topics:
> > >
> > > 1. would you like to have a forum rather than a mailing list? (cause I don't see a reason for keeping both going in parallel, other than duplicating information and confusing users, which aren't exactly my goals at this point :) ).
> > > 2. do you know of a good, free/cheap hosting service for forums, preferably using phpBB? (one of the "must have" features I'm looking for is the possibility to save the state of the forum at a given point in time, so if we decide to move on another server we won't loose the threads already available on the forum). if it's free, it can have ads, as long as they're not too annoying :)
> > >
> > > Let me be the first to vote on this:
> > >
> > > 1. yes
> > > 2. no freaking idea. All the free forum hosting sites I could find with google (although I admit I only tried a few) don't seem to give you the possibility to save the state of your forum.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Bogdan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________ Elua-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

_______________________________________________

Elua-dev mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

_______________________________________________
Elua-dev mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

You can restrict posting on the Nabble side as well.

Options > Users > Who can view & post?

I'm not sure what happens if you double-up on things such that you moderate adding users on the Nabble side, as well as on the list.

I also forget how they handle things that get posted on the forum, that do or don't make it to the list.

----- "Bogdan Marinescu" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ah nice, it requires the user to be subscribed, which is cool. Still curious about what happens with the messages posted to the "forum" interface that DON'T make it to the list, because the poster isn't subscribed.
>
> Best,
> Bogdan
>
>

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

This looks very nice, but do you have any idea what happens if an unregistered user tries to post something there? Currently, the eLua dev list is moderated, and I'd like to keep it like this. I'll try to post something stupid and see how that goes :) Is there an option to limit the access only to "registered" users, or maybe make the whole thing read-only?
>
> Best,
> Bogdan

>
>
>

> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Bogdan Marinescu <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

Ahhhh, so THAT's what Nabble does! :) Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Bogdan
>
>

>

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

> Here are some examples they provide of embedding:
> http://www.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=36
>
> (sorry to keep generating more mail for incremental comments :-) )

>
> ----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >

> > Looks like it has now joined.  FYI I think it is being stupid about not making this conversation a thread because it didn't get the start of it (though I'm not sure).
> >
> > Here's an example of a list that I didn't want the full volume of, but set up to archive on Nabble (if you want to see how a populated list looks):
> > http://n2.nabble.com/git-f661346.html
> >
> > ----- "James Snyder" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >

> > > Search support is important, and forums can be a better format for support, in particular.  How about something that does both without getting rid of the list :-)
> > >
> > > Have you checked out Nabble?  You can either explicitly create forums at Nabble, or have it work with an existing list.  If you use it with an existing list it will archive it for you, and give you a decent layout of threads, and allow for searching.  On top of that, though, people who get an account with Nabble can treat it like a forum and respond to posts through the site.  If you don't want full list volume coming into your inbox (this is why I've used it in the past), you can selectively follow threads or searches and get updates emailed to you.
> > >
> > > Here's a link to the eLua-dev archiver that I've set up (I think it still requires moderator approval before it can join our list): http://n2.nabble.com/elua-dev-f2368040.html
> > >
> > > You can also embed it in your site (I've never tried this though).
> > >
> > > -jsnyder
> > >
> > > ----- "Bogdan Marinescu" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I've been thinking for a while now about adding a forum to our eLua project. Its final purpose would be to replace the discussion lists, because of two main reasons:
> > > >
> > > > - (arguably) the information on a forum is better structured than on a mailing list
> > > > - the BerliOS lists server doesn't let you search the mailing lists, it just lets you browse the archives (see for example https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/), which is a huge limitation IMO.
> > > >
> > > > With this in mind, I'd like to start a pseudo-poll on this list (cause it's kinda hard to do a _real_ poll using just a mailing list mechanism, and I'd like to have an open discussion anyway) on these topics:
> > > >
> > > > 1. would you like to have a forum rather than a mailing list? (cause I don't see a reason for keeping both going in parallel, other than duplicating information and confusing users, which aren't exactly my goals at this point :) ).
> > > > 2. do you know of a good, free/cheap hosting service for forums, preferably using phpBB? (one of the "must have" features I'm looking for is the possibility to save the state of the forum at a given point in time, so if we decide to move on another server we won't loose the threads already available on the forum). if it's free, it can have ads, as long as they're not too annoying :)
> > > >
> > > > Let me be the first to vote on this:
> > > >
> > > > 1. yes
> > > > 2. no freaking idea. All the free forum hosting sites I could find with google (although I admit I only tried a few) don't seem to give you the possibility to save the state of your forum.
> > > >

> > > > Best,
> > > > Bogdan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________ Elua-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

>

_______________________________________________

> Elua-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev
>
>

>

>

>
> _______________________________________________ Elua-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/elua-dev

Bogdan Marinescu wrote:
1. No
2. No

I haven't been impressed with most forums, including all phpBB-based forums.  About the only one I liked was the old InfoWorld Electric forums before 2000; most forums get in the way of good discussions (I haven't tried StackOverflow yet).

Using a mailing list with gmail works well -- I can use gmail to search and archive, and if I want to see everything at once, I can use Thunderbird with gmail IMAP access to keep on top of my various mailing lists (Lua, eLua, etc).

--Tony

Hi all,

I've been thinking for a while now about adding a forum to our eLua project. Its final purpose would be to replace the discussion lists, because of two main reasons:

- (arguably) the information on a forum is better structured than on a mailing list
- the BerliOS lists server doesn't let you search the mailing lists, it just lets you browse the archives (see for example https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/elua-dev/), which is a huge limitation IMO.

With this in mind, I'd like to start a pseudo-poll on this list (cause it's kinda hard to do a _real_ poll using just a mailing list mechanism, and I'd like to have an open discussion anyway) on these topics:

1. would you like to have a forum rather than a mailing list? (cause I don't see a reason for keeping both going in parallel, other than duplicating information and confusing users, which aren't exactly my goals at this point :) ).
2. do you know of a good, free/cheap hosting service for forums, preferably using phpBB? (one of the "must have" features I'm looking for is the possibility to save the state of the forum at a given point in time, so if we decide to move on another server we won't loose the threads already available on the forum). if it's free, it can have ads, as long as they're not too annoying :)

Let me be the first to vote on this:

1. yes
2. no freaking idea. All the free forum hosting sites I could find with google (although I admit I only tried a few) don't seem to give you the possibility to save the state of your forum.

Best,
Bogdan

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Elua-dev mailing list
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