Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

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Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

Has anyone else noticed this yet?  Does this mean that GCC is going to have less contributions for our beloved ARM ports?  I just found out today so I do not know any more then this (found out when I was going to dl the tools)...

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Re: Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

Yes, it's been some time now. It appears MG bought some parts of CS december last year: http://www.mentor.com/company/news/codesourcery-open-source-acquisition

So far, there was only the 2011.03 release of the CS ARM Lite toolchain. I expected a version two months ago, but none came. Maybe because of all the migration trouble like names changing, etc, or it's just slowly discotinuing the lite versions in favor of the paid ones. Only time will tell.
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2011/11/24 Mike Panetta <[hidden email]>
Has anyone else noticed this yet?  Does this mean that GCC is going to have less contributions for our beloved ARM ports?  I just found out today so I do not know any more then this (found out when I was going to dl the tools)...

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Re: Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

Damn. It appears they are now hiding stuff behind registerwalls. There should still be a lite edition, but I guess sometime in the future we'll have to forget about it and go for Yagarto.



Em 24 de novembro de 2011 16:24, Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]> escreveu:
Yes, it's been some time now. It appears MG bought some parts of CS december last year: http://www.mentor.com/company/news/codesourcery-open-source-acquisition

So far, there was only the 2011.03 release of the CS ARM Lite toolchain. I expected a version two months ago, but none came. Maybe because of all the migration trouble like names changing, etc, or it's just slowly discotinuing the lite versions in favor of the paid ones. Only time will tell.
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2011/11/24 Mike Panetta <[hidden email]>
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Re: Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

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ARM have a team in China dedicated to improving GCC and BINUTILS for the Cortex-M profile.

It has been obvious to some that the purchase of CodeSourcery by Mentor was a consequence of other actions.

I wouldn't be worried about the long-term viability of GCC for Cortex-M.  Quite the opposite.

-- Paul.




On 24 Nov 2011, at 18:11, Mike Panetta wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed this yet?  Does this mean that GCC is going to have less contributions for our beloved ARM ports?  I just found out today so I do not know any more then this (found out when I was going to dl the tools)...
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2011/11/24 Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]>
Damn. It appears they are now hiding stuff behind registerwalls. There should still be a lite edition, but I guess sometime in the future we'll have to forget about it and go for Yagarto.

I wouldn't worry too much. Even if the lite edition of CodeSourcery disappears, there are a lot of alternatives out there now, including the option to roll your own toolchain using tools like crostool-ng. 

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Em 24 de novembro de 2011 16:24, Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]> escreveu:

Yes, it's been some time now. It appears MG bought some parts of CS december last year: http://www.mentor.com/company/news/codesourcery-open-source-acquisition

So far, there was only the 2011.03 release of the CS ARM Lite toolchain. I expected a version two months ago, but none came. Maybe because of all the migration trouble like names changing, etc, or it's just slowly discotinuing the lite versions in favor of the paid ones. Only time will tell.
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2011/11/24 Mike Panetta <[hidden email]>
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Re: Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

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It's hard to say what they'll do. The lite versions have only been a few a year anyways previously, so I'm not sure we have enough of a sample at this point to really say if anything has changed.

Regardless there are other options, including plain gcc/newlib/binutils sources, which ultimately have gotten the sourcery patches in the past since they've done a lot of the maintenance work on the arm port in the past.

Also even if they become more restrictive, ultimately they do have to provide sources to customers at least since most of the components are GPL.

We'll see. For now they still provide their G++ lite distributions:
https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscription?@template=lite

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On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:30, Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]> wrote:

Damn. It appears they are now hiding stuff behind registerwalls. There should still be a lite edition, but I guess sometime in the future we'll have to forget about it and go for Yagarto.



Em 24 de novembro de 2011 16:24, Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]> escreveu:
Yes, it's been some time now. It appears MG bought some parts of CS december last year: http://www.mentor.com/company/news/codesourcery-open-source-acquisition

So far, there was only the 2011.03 release of the CS ARM Lite toolchain. I expected a version two months ago, but none came. Maybe because of all the migration trouble like names changing, etc, or it's just slowly discotinuing the lite versions in favor of the paid ones. Only time will tell.
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Instituto Militar de Engenharia - IME
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2011/11/24 Mike Panetta <[hidden email]>
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Re: Mentor Graphics bought out Code Sourcery?

Just as a side note, right after this thread got going someone has
asked this on CS's arm-gnu list:
http://sourcerytools.com/pipermail/arm-gnu/2011-November/000025.html

I'll send anything along if I see any updates.

-jsnyder

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:13 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's hard to say what they'll do. The lite versions have only been a few a
> year anyways previously, so I'm not sure we have enough of a sample at this
> point to really say if anything has changed.
> Regardless there are other options, including plain gcc/newlib/binutils
> sources, which ultimately have gotten the sourcery patches in the past since
> they've done a lot of the maintenance work on the arm port in the past.
> Also even if they become more restrictive, ultimately they do have to
> provide sources to customers at least since most of the components are GPL.
> We'll see. For now they still provide their G++ lite distributions:
> https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscription?@template=lite
>
> --
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> Biomedical Engineering
> Northwestern University
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> ph: (847) 448-0386
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:30, Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Damn. It appears they are now hiding stuff behind registerwalls. There
> should still be a lite edition, but I guess sometime in the future we'll
> have to forget about it and go for Yagarto.
>
>
>
> Em 24 de novembro de 2011 16:24, Ronan Paixão <[hidden email]>
> escreveu:
>>
>> Yes, it's been some time now. It appears MG bought some parts of CS
>> december last year:
>> http://www.mentor.com/company/news/codesourcery-open-source-acquisition
>>
>> So far, there was only the 2011.03 release of the CS ARM Lite toolchain. I
>> expected a version two months ago, but none came. Maybe because of all the
>> migration trouble like names changing, etc, or it's just slowly discotinuing
>> the lite versions in favor of the paid ones. Only time will tell.
>> --------------8<--------------8<-------------
>> Ronan Paixão
>> Electronics Engineer
>> Instituto Militar de Engenharia - IME
>> +55 (21) 8822-1709
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/24 Mike Panetta <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> Has anyone else noticed this yet?  Does this mean that GCC is going to
>>> have less contributions for our beloved ARM ports?  I just found out today
>>> so I do not know any more then this (found out when I was going to dl the
>>> tools)...
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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