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Thanks for the recent commit James!
We aparently have the same doc/site menu functionality, without depending on JavaScript anymore!
Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still need something else that we couldn't see ?

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Good work indeed! Another thing that we must do is check this new version on as many browsers as possible. The old version was fine on IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I think). If this works equally well on those, we'll surely keep it.

Best,
Bogdan

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Dado Sutter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for the recent commit James!
We aparently have the same doc/site menu functionality, without depending on JavaScript anymore!
Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still need something else that we couldn't see ?

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Re: JavaScript free menu

And James' trunk commit is already online at:

http://elua.giga.puc-rio.br

... which reminds me that it's time to announce that this URL will be our official "Development site/doc", reflecting as close as possible the work beeing done on trunk. This allows developers and bleeding edge users to have access to the latest doc online too.

   The official project's site/doc is and will continue to be

www.eluaproject.net

   This will always contain the last official release doc, which is v0.6 today.

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Good work indeed! Another thing that we must do is check this new version on as many browsers as possible. The old version was fine on IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I think). If this works equally well on those, we'll surely keep it.

Best,
Bogdan

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Thanks for the recent commit James!
We aparently have the same doc/site menu functionality, without depending on JavaScript anymore!
Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still need something else that we couldn't see ?

Best
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I named it initial since I excluded some of the hacks for ancient  
versions of IE, and I haven't tested to see how far back it will work  
without them.

I wanted to have a browser that needed such things in front of me to  
ensure that those would render correctly before committing them (since  
some are fudges associated with positioning/sizing)

At the moment though, it should do the HTML indentation pretty well in  
the code generator and it works with modern W3C-compliant browsers :-)

-jsnyder

On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Bogdan Marinescu wrote:

> Good work indeed! Another thing that we must do is check this new  
> version on as many browsers as possible. The old version was fine on  
> IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I think). If this works  
> equally well on those, we'll surely keep it.
>
> Best,
> Bogdan
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Dado Sutter <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
> Thanks for the recent commit James!
> We aparently have the same doc/site menu functionality, without  
> depending on JavaScript anymore!
> Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still need something else  
> that we couldn't see ?
>
> Best
> Dado
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Maybe AdobeLabs help testing in multiple browsers/systems.

https://browserlab.adobe.com/index.html

--Pedro Bittencourt


On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:
I named it initial since I excluded some of the hacks for ancient versions of IE, and I haven't tested to see how far back it will work without them.

I wanted to have a browser that needed such things in front of me to ensure that those would render correctly before committing them (since some are fudges associated with positioning/sizing)

At the moment though, it should do the HTML indentation pretty well in the code generator and it works with modern W3C-compliant browsers :-)

-jsnyder


On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Bogdan Marinescu wrote:

Good work indeed! Another thing that we must do is check this new version on as many browsers as possible. The old version was fine on IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I think). If this works equally well on those, we'll surely keep it.

Best,
Bogdan

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Dado Sutter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for the recent commit James!
We aparently have the same doc/site menu functionality, without depending on JavaScript anymore!
Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still need something else that we couldn't see ?

Best
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Nice, thanks!
   But it doesn't seem to help too much though :(
   The pages open diferently even in the most recent browser options (diferent fonts from the ones I see here but this may be explained by the fact that they run their browsers on Windows).
   But the really bad part is that the menu doesn't work at all, in any of the options I could check on this first quick try.
   Locally (Firefox 3.0 in Ubuntu Desktop 9.04) it works perfectly.

Best
Dado


  

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Maybe AdobeLabs help testing in multiple browsers/systems.

https://browserlab.adobe.com/index.html

--Pedro Bittencourt



On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, James Snyder <[hidden email]> wrote:
I named it initial since I excluded some of the hacks for ancient versions of IE, and I haven't tested to see how far back it will work without them.

I wanted to have a browser that needed such things in front of me to ensure that those would render correctly before committing them (since some are fudges associated with positioning/sizing)

At the moment though, it should do the HTML indentation pretty well in the code generator and it works with modern W3C-compliant browsers :-)

-jsnyder


On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Bogdan Marinescu wrote:

Good work indeed! Another thing that we must do is check this new version on as many browsers as possible. The old version was fine on IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I think). If this works equally well on those, we'll surely keep it.

Best,
Bogdan

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Dado Sutter <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for the recent commit James!
We aparently have the same doc/site menu functionality, without depending on JavaScript anymore!
Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still need something else that we couldn't see ?

Best
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It looks like it works well for non-interactive checks of rendering, but
it doesn't seem to give one live access to the browsers, I think it just
grabs screenshots.

Nice tool for static stuff, though.

I think this might be a decent tool for checking IE 6-8 on Windows:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8e6ac106-525d-45d0-84db-dccff3fae677&displaylang=en

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 00:30 -0200, Dado Sutter wrote:

>
> Nice, thanks!
>    But it doesn't seem to help too much though :(
>    The pages open diferently even in the most recent browser options
> (diferent fonts from the ones I see here but this may be explained by
> the fact that they run their browsers on Windows).
>    But the really bad part is that the menu doesn't work at all, in
> any of the options I could check on this first quick try.
>    Locally (Firefox 3.0 in Ubuntu Desktop 9.04) it works perfectly.
>
> Best
> Dado
>
>
>    
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 23:56, Pedro Bittencourt
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>         Maybe AdobeLabs help testing in multiple browsers/systems.
>        
>         https://browserlab.adobe.com/index.html
>        
>         --Pedro Bittencourt
>        
>        
>        
>        
>         On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, James Snyder
>         <[hidden email]> wrote:
>                 I named it initial since I excluded some of the hacks
>                 for ancient versions of IE, and I haven't tested to
>                 see how far back it will work without them.
>                
>                 I wanted to have a browser that needed such things in
>                 front of me to ensure that those would render
>                 correctly before committing them (since some are
>                 fudges associated with positioning/sizing)
>                
>                 At the moment though, it should do the HTML
>                 indentation pretty well in the code generator and it
>                 works with modern W3C-compliant browsers :-)
>                
>                 -jsnyder
>                
>                
>                
>                 On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Bogdan Marinescu wrote:
>                
>                         Good work indeed! Another thing that we must
>                         do is check this new version on as many
>                         browsers as possible. The old version was fine
>                         on IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I
>                         think). If this works equally well on those,
>                         we'll surely keep it.
>                        
>                         Best,
>                         Bogdan
>                        
>                         On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Dado Sutter
>                         <[hidden email]> wrote:
>                         Thanks for the recent commit James!
>                         We aparently have the same doc/site menu
>                         functionality, without depending on JavaScript
>                         anymore!
>                         Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still
>                         need something else that we couldn't see ?
>                        
>                         Best
>                         Dado
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Re: JavaScript free menu

IE6 & 7 now work as of last checkin. Those two need a little bit of  
JavaScript since they don't fully support the CSS hover class.  8  
worked without changes.

I ended up testing them by installing IE6 & 7 under Wine.

-jsnyder

On Oct 19, 2009, at 9:41 PM, James Snyder wrote:

> It looks like it works well for non-interactive checks of rendering,  
> but
> it doesn't seem to give one live access to the browsers, I think it  
> just
> grabs screenshots.
>
> Nice tool for static stuff, though.
>
> I think this might be a decent tool for checking IE 6-8 on Windows:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8e6ac106-525d-45d0-84db-dccff3fae677&displaylang=en
>
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 00:30 -0200, Dado Sutter wrote:
>>
>> Nice, thanks!
>>   But it doesn't seem to help too much though :(
>>   The pages open diferently even in the most recent browser options
>> (diferent fonts from the ones I see here but this may be explained by
>> the fact that they run their browsers on Windows).
>>   But the really bad part is that the menu doesn't work at all, in
>> any of the options I could check on this first quick try.
>>   Locally (Firefox 3.0 in Ubuntu Desktop 9.04) it works perfectly.
>>
>> Best
>> Dado
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 23:56, Pedro Bittencourt
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>        Maybe AdobeLabs help testing in multiple browsers/systems.
>>
>>        https://browserlab.adobe.com/index.html
>>
>>        --Pedro Bittencourt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, James Snyder
>>        <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>                I named it initial since I excluded some of the hacks
>>                for ancient versions of IE, and I haven't tested to
>>                see how far back it will work without them.
>>
>>                I wanted to have a browser that needed such things in
>>                front of me to ensure that those would render
>>                correctly before committing them (since some are
>>                fudges associated with positioning/sizing)
>>
>>                At the moment though, it should do the HTML
>>                indentation pretty well in the code generator and it
>>                works with modern W3C-compliant browsers :-)
>>
>>                -jsnyder
>>
>>
>>
>>                On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Bogdan Marinescu wrote:
>>
>>                        Good work indeed! Another thing that we must
>>                        do is check this new version on as many
>>                        browsers as possible. The old version was fine
>>                        on IE 7,8 and 9, Firefox, and also Opera (I
>>                        think). If this works equally well on those,
>>                        we'll surely keep it.
>>
>>                        Best,
>>                        Bogdan
>>
>>                        On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Dado Sutter
>>                        <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>                        Thanks for the recent commit James!
>>                        We aparently have the same doc/site menu
>>                        functionality, without depending on JavaScript
>>                        anymore!
>>                        Why did you call it "initial" ? Does it still
>>                        need something else that we couldn't see ?
>>
>>                        Best
>>                        Dado
>>
>>
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